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Comments on Story: KFC attracts flocks of female consumers in China with “cute” delivery boys
I want one of those guys to deliver
http://www.haohaoreport.com/l/32895
I wonder if I can order some KFC here in Dalian and get a cute guy on the side.
Comments on Story: Chinese pharmaceutical company focusing on bear bile products backfired after releasing IPO plans
No worries -- was just a friendly reminder, mostly as I'm pushing for more community involvement in policing guideline violations (see this thread).
Oops, sorry, didn't do it intentionally. Haven't been here for a while.
Two posts in 24 hours from the same source. Guideline violation.
Comments on Story: Letting votes punish violators
Lol re: Heiney in a comic. I can picture his comic rendering in full Bao An outfit.
I think the community being vigilant voting down offenders directly ties into my thinking -- those of us with the most invested in the site are most eager to see it kept clean and most eager to see other community members adhere to the guidelines.
I like the Clippy idea. The challenge will be coming up with a system that handles it elegantly and doesn't continue to annoy people.
And good suggestions about the bar. I'll work on changing the links in the feed (and thus on Twitter) as well as adding some more features when I do the upgrade.
"if they get a -2 (or is it -1? Either way, I can adjust it) the story is virtually hidden"
Didn't realize that. So, I at least partially retract my "clutter" comments presuming the community is vigilant (I have no doubt Heiney will be).
Regarding the upgrade... My only is suggestion is the HHR Bar. I'm not keen on such bars (one of the reasons: if people navigate within a site without leaving the bar the link stays the same -- could create chaos if they save that link to return to a particular page), but if you use one why not have links on Twitter go straight to the HHR Bar + story? Would save a step for users and you still have them "on" Haohao. Also, would be cool if you could vote through the bar itself.
And I think Haohao needs its own Clippy-like mascot annoying users and providing random advice like "Can I show you how to vote?" or "Would you like Mandmx to put Heiney in a comic strip?" That would great.
And Ryan, I see you now have 0 Gold stars. Did you trade yours in for some baijiu?
The point about pushing submissions to a different page is not something I considered, and a valid one. However, I don't know if these are actually "clutter", as there is some value to them -- keeping in mind they are not spam, as I will still be killing all spam. Additionally, if they get a -2 (or is it -1? Either way, I can adjust it) the story is virtually hidden, and so wouldn't really be clutter.
My thinking here is that these types of things are more "community" guidelines, and so better dealt with as a community (through vote punishing, and thus star removal and lowering of standing on the site).
Perhaps that means I need to also consider developing benefits for having a high star rating (eg. more vote up/down power?).
The other option is for me to work harder at automating things, by:
1. Physically preventing a user from submitting a story from the same source in a 24-hour period.
2. Giving moderator status to users with high star counts that have proven to be exceptional Hao Hao Five-0 (yes, Heiney, I'm looking at you, lol). This could then allow them to automatically unpublish a story that breaks the guidelines (this would be good, but for all its keeping of the front-end clean, it will still require backend moderation by me, and so not a big time-saver from a practical stand-point).
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I have a bit of an upgrade to HHR on the horizon (just as soon as I'm able to find the solid chunk of time it's going to require to do it), and so I'm eager to hear suggestions on the topic so that I can address them when I begin work on the upgrade.
-R
Weird, today so many people (including regulars) adding multiple posts from their own site on the same day. Something in the water?
Anyways, I think posts that explicitly violate posting guidelines are better off deleted than down voting. Those posts "push down" legitimate ones and likely reduce the chance legitimate posts are viewed (both due to additional clutter and pushing posts to subsequent pages). This doesn't change if those votes are only down voted. All of the negative voting can also have other unintended consequences. I suspect many users never look to see why a story has a negative score and could assume a variety of reasons.
Plus, downvoting assumes the offender notices the downvoting and will change their behavior accordingly -- not a given.
If you really want some public shaming, then maybe consider moving the posts to a wall of shame. And give Heiney extra downvoting power. :)
Comments on Story: Chinese idiom for not exactly real girlfriend
Graphic content???
Just a quick note to say that the reason two Fluentflix posts are side by side is not because Samff submitted them at the same time (against guidelines), but just because I was slow in approving them (and then once approved the date gets reset, so that they're not buried under several days of submissions).
I'm working on a better system (namely, separating the actual users from the spammers in a more efficient manner), but didn't want any punishing votes for a guideline violation that isn't Samff's fault.
Comments on Story: One more step to access www.haohaoreport.com
Thanks for the clarification! Xie xie!
It's not everyone, and definitely related to the proxy. I use a service (Cloudflare) to help cut down on spam bots, and it appears the China proxy you're using has been blacklisted and so triggers that extra step.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Comments on Story: Watch: Creepy, racist Superbowl ad by Rep. Peter Hoekstra
Well done.
This ad is obviously racist. Although I'd never heard of this guy's opponent, Debbie Stabenow, I went onto her campaign site yesterday to donate money. Since I'm not a Michigan voter, I thought this was the most effective way to make my displeasure with the ad clear. Encourage others who feel similarly to do the same. (No, I don't work for Stabenow or anything like that. I just really dislike that ad.)
Just an update -- apparently the ad has fellow Republicans pissed off as well (no huge surprise really):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72532.html
Hoekstra is completely unapologetic though. The guy is clueless, or willing to shelve morals to drum up coins for the coffers.
Asian Americans faking a Chinese-English accent is like nails on a chalkboard to me. I've seen it in a good number of TV shows, but it's painful every time.
"What the hell were they thinking? Can you believe they actually made something like this?" funny -- indeed!
This is actually pretty funny. Not ha-ha funny, but more like, "What the hell were they thinking? Can you believe they actually made something like this?" funny.
Though I think when you give your opponent the name "spend it now" while calling yourself "spend it not", the bar for cleverness has been sufficiently lowered, why not just go all out?
Comments on Story: Are you ready for Chinese Camp? Interview with a American student at a Chinese summer camp
Two posts in 24 hours from the same source. Guideline violation.
Comments on Story: Rent a boyfriend on Taobao starting at US$2
I know a girl (not Chinese) who was paid to go to a Chinese guy's hometown, meet the family, and even participate in a totally fake wedding ceremony! Get your money upfront though, people who are willing to hoodwink their families have absolutely NO problem cheating a laowai they barely know. My friend was not paid the full amount she was promised. (Actually I don't advocate participating in this kind of thing at all, but if you do, go in with your eyes open!)
they pay a high price for foreign "actors"
http://gochengdoo.com/en/classifieds/item/22060/wanted_rental_boyfriend_...
Comments on Story: Sina, Tencent & others to require real name registering for social media by March 16th
So how do foreigners deal with this?
"I have tried registering my real name on my Weibo, but it rejects my name because it is English, assuming the only names people have in the world are Chinese. I guess I'll be forced to come up with a fake Chinese name for myself. Thanks, real name registration policy, for forcing me to register a fake name!"
Comments on Story: Xiangtan sewer explosion
I agree, the video was interesting whether you can understand Chinese or not.
Comments on Story: ZDNet: Chinese Workers "Need To Suffer"
Argumentation is a bit too jumpy for my taste. But I find the provided link about the production ethics of Motorola interesting
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Making-Smartphones-Without-...
Comments on Story: China's Police Ill-Equipped To Combat Unrest
It says you can read 8 articles in 30 days. Besides there an easy way to get around by deleting some url code.